Some of Southwest Florida's most seasoned voters are weighing in on the hottest topic in the country - the race for the White House. So what does the 85-plus crowd think of the battle between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton?
Richard Koff, 91, started a discussion group of about two dozen seniors three years ago at the Carlisle Independent Living Facility in North Naples. But there's no bragging about grandchildren at their weekly Wednesday meetings.
"It's very political, and we have a lot of lectures," Koff said.
An avid follower of current events, Koff's encourages people to share their opinions in an open forum, with chairs in a circle. This Wednesday's discussion centered on the fierce campaign between Trump and Clinton.
"This has been very difficult for me," said one woman in the discussion group. "I don't like either one of them."
"If you don't want to vote for somebody, don't vote," one man responded. "Or vote for a third party."
With allegations of lewd allegations of lewd comments by Trump, and Clinton continuing to take heat over Benghazi and her email scandal, this race for the White House is the craziest these octogenarians have ever witnessed.
"I've been voting since Eisenhower and Stevenson, you know, way back," said group member Nettie Grant. "And I'll tell you, I've never seen anything like this."
Koff said that expressing different views in an open forum is a good thing, because it makes people think.
"You realize what's possible, what's practical, and what's a dream that isn't going to happen," Koff said. "We listen to both sides of the argument, more than two sides sometimes, and you hope that you learn something from that."